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Don't trust the Home Sellers dog...

The home seller let me in the house and within a few seconds, her dog came out of "no where" and bit me on the calf and drew blood.  I said "your dog just bit me"...she said "OH NO, IT WAS NOT MY DOG, MY DOG DOES NOT BITE!!   As blood is running down my leg, the seller is insisting I must have hurt myself somewhere else...she was never going to admit that that my bite wound was really made by her dog's two teeth. 

Denial.  I understood completely. This is a common problem with dog owners.                           

Most dog owners think that their dog is special, (just like an over priced house).  They think that just because their pooch loves them, they could never possibly do anything that "out of character".  Wrong.  Obedient dogs can bite just like socialized dogs can...given the situation, any dog has the propensity to bite someone. Dogs are still animals and animals are unpredictable...a dog does not have to be mean or a dangerous breed in order to bite.  Dogs can bite for protection, or dominance, or fear, or confusion and many times they do not growl or show their teeth, so there is no warning.  They just "snap".

More than one dog in the house is a duplicate problem..."packs" are just like gangs...dogs will exhibit a behavior with a pack that they would never do alone...and many times one dog will simply protect the other dogs in the pack or follow the unprovoked behavior of the pack leader.

When going into the sellers home that has a dog, do not try to approach them, pet them or try to play with them.  Best to ignore them, do not give eye contact and if you have to approach, do so from your side, which is less confrontational.  If the seller has confined the dogs to a room...skip that room, and don't try to be a hero.

No one can predict how a dog will react when you come into their domain, their sanctuary, or their den AKA their "home".  You are just an intruder, so your best bet is to be aware and just never trust the home sellers dog. 

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Comment balloon 33 commentsMike & Eve Alexander • May 28 2013 08:26AM

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Good advice...I'm a "dog person", but a dog on protection alert is an issue.

Posted by Li Read, Caring expertise...knowledge for you! (Sea to Sky Premier Properties (Salt Spring)) over 5 years ago

I'm reading this and what I find unbelievable is the owners attitude. i.e., How dare you place your calf in the dog's mouth Eve!!  

Posted by Carla Muss-Jacobs, RETIRED (RETIRED / State License is Inactive) over 5 years ago

Li: As a dog person, you do understand.

Carla: Yes, a seller I will never forget...

Eve

Posted by Mike & Eve Alexander, Exclusively Representing ONLY Orlando Home Buyers (Buyers Broker of Florida ) over 5 years ago

I have 5 dogs, and have had many more over the years. I generally get along with any dog I meet, but know when to stop tying if they reject me at first.

Posted by Travis "the SOLD man" Parker; Associate Broker, email: Travis@theSOLDman.me / cell: 334-494-7846 (Team Linda Simmons, Enterprise, AL 36330) over 5 years ago

Yikes, not good. Of course I don't understand how she accused you of getting hurt somewhere else.

All dogs need to be contained during showings. And we know this is not a perfect world... but it would be far better if they were.

Hope you didn't need stitches.

Posted by Andrea Swiedler, Realtor, Southern Litchfield County CT (Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices New England Properties) over 5 years ago

Great advice. I still remember the showing instructions "Satan the pit bull should in his his crate." Wrong... I looked in the window and came face to face with Satan!  Sellers need to understand their dog is a potential liability.

Posted by Gary L. Waters Broker Associate, Bucci Realty, Fifteen Years Experience in Brevard County (Bucci Realty, Inc.) over 5 years ago

I feel about my 3 dogs like most people feel about their children but they are still the noisiest, jumpiest, ill-behaved group I have ever owned.  (Maybe that description fits someone's children too!)  Since they appear to be untrainable and just plain glad to see company come, anyone who comes to my house must wait for entry for just a minute until I can confine them or put them in the yard. It's the least I can do to preserve relationships. And if I am selling my home, they go for a ride or to doggy daycare. 

Posted by Valerie M. Blake (RLAH Real Estate) over 5 years ago

Homeowners can be quite nonchalant about their dogs and walk right through a room in front of you without looking back  while their dogs are displaying signs of distress and protectiveness.  They usually say to just ignore the dog, but they do not have the same relationship with it that strangers do.  I haven't been bitten yet, but have felt it coming a few times.

Posted by Joe Pruett (Bank Plus Realty, Inc.) over 5 years ago

The Dog Whisperer cable TV show with Caesar Milan is informative and instructional about how to deal with dogs and most of what you say is revealing.

Posted by Kimo Jarrett, Pro Lifestyle Solutions (WikiWiki Realty) over 5 years ago

Eve,

 

When I saw your headline all I could think of was Peter Sellers: http://youtu.be/SXn2QVipK2o

 

Great story. Seems like I just get the "Nice quiet dog in a cage" that goes Cujo when I walk in the room.

Posted by Jon Boyd, Ann Arbor Real Estate Buyers Agent (Home Buyer's Agent of Ann Arbor) over 5 years ago

Yikes! How horrible. I can't imagine telling an adult that they didn't actually feel a dog's teeth bite into their leg. How insane.

I had an experience where the owner let his dogs out in the yard while we viewed their home. When we were walking back the car, one of the dogs began (there is no nice way to say this) humping the buyer's young son. We could not get the dog off the kid. It took three adults AND the owner to separate the two. Luckily, the boy did not understand what was going on, but must have seen the horrified looks on his parent's faces.

I take the showing instructions pretty seriously when it comes to dogs, but you're right, some owners do not have any idea what their dogs are like to strangers.

Posted by Dana Hollish Hill, Lead Associate Broker (Hollish Hill Group, Keller William Capital Properties) over 5 years ago

After the open house ended at 5pm, I heard growling when I took a step towards the front door. Some advice, do with play with the dog, pet it or make friends. Pete

Posted by Peter Banyan, Broker Associate, working with residential, commercial, and land (Peter Banyan, LLC) over 5 years ago

You gave some real good advice.  I've trained dogs, mine and other peoples and I've trained people to train their dogs and unless I know a dog I don't trust it.... and sometimes I know a dog and really don't trust it.  We bring dogs into our world and expect them to stop acting like dogs.  Dogs are dogs and unless they clearly understand through training what is acceptable behavior or what is not acceptable behavior, they will continue to do doggy things.  If a dog does something wrong it's the owner's fault.. Flat out..  that's the way it is..  I learned that through experience.

Trust no dog!

 

Posted by Laurel Stone, Quality Online REAL ESTATE Education (Laurel Stone School of Real Estate) over 5 years ago

That seller sounds like a complete nut!  I hope they bought somebody else's house!!

Posted by Virginia Kail, True Blue Realty, Homes and Land for Sale (Investments, starter houses, luxury homes,farms, acreage) over 5 years ago

Travis:  OK, you have more dogs than me!  More love...

Andrea: Just punctures, no stitches.  She was just not going to even consider that it was her dog...

Gary: The name "Satan" says it all...lucky you saw him first.

Valarie:  What a fun pack...and they are smart enough to have you trained!

Joe:  Yes, while the dog body language says watch out, the owner has no clue. 

Kimo: For sure, Caesar does understand dogs.

Jon:  the you tube clip was really funny, thanks.

Dana:  Gosh that was awful, you're lucky you had help.

Peter:  I do appreciate your comment.

Laurel:  Glad we think alike...and yes, when things go wrong it is the owners fault.

Posted by Mike & Eve Alexander, Exclusively Representing ONLY Orlando Home Buyers (Buyers Broker of Florida ) over 5 years ago

I have generally been suspicious of dogs in a house. I am a dog owner but always put our dogs out or contain them when we have visitors. I would have made a call to the local animal control or police department to report the incident.

Posted by Gerard Gilbers, Your Marketing Master (Higher Authority Markeing) over 5 years ago

We encourage all our sellers to lock up or remove the pet from the home to avoid anything like this.

Posted by Toby Barnett, Toby Barnett (KW North Sound) over 5 years ago

As the owner of an overfriendly dog, I have seen her get with the pack mentality & go after someone if the rest do.  The pack is a protection group & 2 are considered a pack.  They always protect the house no matter what. 

Hope your calf feels better. Can't really understand the owners mindset. Maybe a call to the police would have helped?

Posted by Lyn Sims, Schaumburg IL Real Estate (RE/MAX Suburban) over 5 years ago

Great advice, watch out for other peoples dogs, I have found that most of the time even the most aggressive dogs will back down if you step towards them quickly with a bit growl.

We do require that our tenants put their cherrished pets in a cage/kennel before any of our maintenance people are allowed to enter the home.

I hope your leg is feeling better!

Posted by Bob Crane, Forestland Experts! 715-204-9671 (Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, Keller Williams fox cities) over 5 years ago

If the sellers' dog does try to bite a guest - can the guest use self defense against the dog?

Posted by Marlene Smith, http://www.mdshomesforsale.com (Long & Foster) over 5 years ago

Sorry -- If a dog lunges at me I will defend myself.  You really have to watch the little ones!  They are the most sneeky!!

Posted by Sheri Sperry - MCNE®, (928) 274-7355 ~ YOUR Solutions REALTOR® (Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage) over 5 years ago

I have a listing where a friendly kitty is often in the driveway or yard.  Someone at the open house started petting the cat and the cat turned and bit them.  Have now received a phone call from the potential buyer/victim  that she feels ill.  Owner doesn't know who the cat belongs to as they haven't lived in the house for a few years. I guess we need to walk the neighborhood and find the owner so we can test the kitty for whatever.  Might hand out flyers as I go!

Posted by Ann Wilkins, Oakland, Berkeley, Piedmont CA (Golden Gate Sotheby's International Realty) over 5 years ago

That's a BIG BOW WOW!!

Posted by John DL Arendsen, Crest Backyard Homes "ADU" dealer & Contractor (CREST BACKYARD HOMES, ON THE LEVEL GENERAL & FACTORY BUILT HOME CONTRACTOR, TAG REAL ESTATE SALES & INVESTMENTS) over 5 years ago

I would have asked if the dog was current on his vacinations. If not we'd be having some tests done. Every dog bite is supposed to be reported. Doesn't matter if you get stitches or not. Every dog licks their behinds. I would have let her know she was going to have to take care of it. I have 3 dogs all currently vacinnated. The neighbors dog is a chihuahua and runs all over the neighborhood. He bit the neighbor and drew blood (puncture wounds). He told the owner if he didn't get the dog and have a copy of the bill within a certain amount of time with proof of vacs that he was calling animal control. The neighbor who got bit was a diabetic and it got infected. Chico's owner had to have him quarantined, then vaccinnated and pay for the other neighbors doctor bills.  Chico has been micro-chipped and vaccinnated but still runs the neighborhood and still likes to snap. I chase him off our property. Dogs need to be kenneled or go with the owner when the house is being showed. 

Ann #23  Yep. I don't pet any animals  and if they hiss or growl I tell whoever is in charge to put them up or we will leave. As a word of caution, I would put a cautionary note into the MLs for your listing not to pet the cat in the driveway because it will bite. The sellers need to contact animal control. Cats carry rabies and cat fever which both can be very dangerous.  If the owner sets food out for the cat tell them to stop. Some areas will consider the cat yours if you tend to the cat at all. Save the owner some anxiety over liability problems and yourself and get the caution into the agent remarks section.

Eve hope your calf feels better. but if you haven't yet you need to have the doctor look at it.

Posted by Theresa Akin (CORPUS CHRISTI REALTY GROUP) over 5 years ago

Eve, I am definitely in agreement on this issue.  I have experienced way too many "friendly" dogs!

Posted by Sharon Parisi, Dallas Homes (United Real Estate Dallas ) over 5 years ago

Virginia: Seller "ushered" us through the house quickly and yes, she was a nut.

Gerard:  You are probably correct, but I was not thinking along those lines.

Toby:  Good idea, even if they are crated, they are usually noisy.

Lyn:  Only got the fleshy part of leg, so I am good, thank you.

Bob:  I have not tried the growl...you may have it down.

Marlene:  If seriously attacked, you bet I would defend.

Sheri: Yes, I have an "ankle biter" at home and even they can do damage if they bite into more than flesh.

Ann: Cat bites are always more serious...I would call animal control and see if they will pick up the cat and maybe test it for you.  If I were the "victim" and feeling ill, I would not look for the owner, I would just trap the cat, take it to a vet and pay to have it tested.

John:  Lucky it was little, only about 15-20 lbs.

Theresa:  Chico needs to be off the streets before another incident or a hawk or another dog get him.  You would think that the owners would have learned...

Sharon:  "Friendly" is only in the eyes of an owner.

Posted by Mike & Eve Alexander, Exclusively Representing ONLY Orlando Home Buyers (Buyers Broker of Florida ) over 5 years ago

Dogs and house selling are a major challenge. Some sellers are great about it...they get the issues and take steps to make sure there are no problems. Others act as though they could care less, and are in denial about the pet's behavior and the possible risks (of getting loose, biting, etc.).

There was a big lawsuit here in the last few years where a buyer, having been granted access by the seller (given permission) to enter the home with his agent, was bitten by the seller's dog. Nothing reportedly had been done to prevent the dog from attacking the buyer. Major bucks...guess who won. Wonder if the MLS said - "friendly dog?"

Sorery to hear you had to deal with getting bitten, and a nutty dog owner. I would have gotten the bite checked out.

Posted by Jeff Dowler, CRS, The Southern California Relocation Dude (Solutions Real Estate ) over 5 years ago

Hi Mike & Eve, we agree, even if all the dog does is slobber, we wish the seller would keep them in another room.

Posted by Bob Miller, The Ocala Dream Team (Keller Williams Cornerstone Realty) over 5 years ago

Having lived with a Veterinarian for 20 years, I have learned how to handle most dogs.  Start with knowing there is a dog in the household before you arrive for the appointment, have some dog treats (bacon flavored works great) available, stay near the front door and have the owner "introduce" the dog to you, offer treats and be welcomed by the dog.  List the home!

Posted by Steven Pahl, Real Estate Consultant Tampa, FL 813-319-6423 (Keller Williams Tampa Properties) over 5 years ago

that story reminds me of a CLASSIC scene from a Pink Panther series movie when Peter Sellers asks if teh dog bites and the proprietor of the store says NO....and the dog bites Sellers and teh proprietor states, "It's not my dog"!!!

Posted by Paddy Deighan JD PhD, Paddy Deighan J.D. Ph.D (TimeshareLawyers.pro) over 5 years ago

I have two dogs and I understand your feelings. One is 13 and has never bitten anyone no matter how much she has been harassed. My other one is 7 and is very small. She has bitten two people in her life. Both " victims " if you will, were given ample warning by me and the dog to leaver her alone. Both ignored me and the dog. She did not draw blood, but got their attention. My advice to all sellers with dogs is remove the dogs while the home is being shown. At the very least crate them.

Posted by Tom Bailey (Margaret Rudd & Associates Inc.) over 5 years ago

I have been bitten twice.  Never too bad.  As an insurance adjuster many years ago I went to a Dog Bit Seminar.  The speaker asked, "What do you do if Killer bites the neighbor kid?"  Answer - "Change his name to Fluffy."

Posted by Gene Riemenschneider, Turning Houses into Homes (Home Point Real Estate) over 5 years ago

Not only did that dog bite you the owner certainly sunk her teeth into you by not suporting your claim, her roof probably doesnt leak either, "not her roof"...lol

Posted by MaryBeth Mills Muldowney, Massachusetts Broker Owner (TradeWinds Realty Group LLC) over 5 years ago

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